- To: domesteading <domesteading at sculptors dot com>
- Subject: Domebook 3
- From: The Millers <triorbtl at sover dot net>
- Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 07:23:25 -0800
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From: The Millers <triorbtl at sover dot net>
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 10:21:33 -0800
To: J & D Goldman <jmgoldma at dwx dot com>
Subject: Re: Domebook 3
Domebooks 1& 2 were something much better than a collection of dome
stories. They were the first significant effort at the democratization of
geodesic domes. Until these books came out, there was only a pool cover
design available in Popular Science for guidance, and the Laminar
patent(1965) had the same chord factors for the 3v and 4v truncatable domes.
Pacific High School came out with a landslide of information, relative to
what was available. The explanations of geodesic geometry were well thought
out. The actual building designs were questionable, but they were admittedly
If we are to produce Domebook 3, I think we will need a new title, since
the editor of Domebooks 1 and 2 will likely prove an obstacle. Something
like Domes for a New Century. And it should have tested, proven information.
Thirty years have passed, we don't need to publish brainstorms. Are serious
dome makers willing to reveal the best of their information? It is only
natural to give out some to be admired, but hold back the key stuff.
One thing that would be of great use in one of the fundamental ambitions
of the publication- a simple geodesic frame for export to places that are
desperate for the structure for a shelter. Something like the Starplate hub
system, but more complex, 3 or 4v. People in places like Afghanistan and
Africa know how to work with traditional materials.
When I was in Oaxaca years ago I saw how helpful corrugated galvanized
steel was, and how skilled the Mexicans were with concrete. A versatile
structural dome frame with short enough spans would not be challenging to
cover. It would save the tedium of working against gravity with low tensile
strength materials. A frame of 2x3's would be easier to fasten to than
metal, and lighter to transport. Wood is scarce in these places. What a help
a light wooden frame would be. In fact, after reading some of the results of
various listserv members trying out Starplate hubs, it seems apparent that
once given a wooden frame to work on, conventional building experience is
enough to carry the finishing process through.
I prefer membrane domes, but I feel certain that this structural
skin'gestalt' kind of dome is confusing to most potential domebuilders. And
the weight and expense of sending durable covering material is probably
prohibitive. The problems presented by a frame can be more easily understood
and solved by any of the skilled, intelligent resourceful people around the
world. They would be ableto make longlasting, beautiful structures. They
could surprise us. They could teach us something. I think as an adjuct to
the book we could produce the frame. It is mostly just the hubs, which are
easy enough items to make.
> From: "J & D Goldman" <jmgoldma at dwx dot com>
> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:34:11 -0600
> To: <domesteading at sculptors dot com>
> Subject: Domebook 3
> Resent-From: domesteading at sculptors dot com
> Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:33:45 -0800
> A number of times we have considered useful action we could take as a
> group. Well, here is another proposal for consideration:
> Let's publish Domebook 3.
> The format of Domebook 2 was rather a collection of dome stories.
> ("Shelter" sort of trailed off.) We have a very diverse set of
> potential contributors on this list alone. Even if we put such a
> collection together, composed of some of the newer ideas that some of
> you would be willing to share in print, we'd probably have enough to
> put something useful (and interesting) in print. For some of you, it
> would be as easy as just submitting something from your web page.
> However, we could do more than that. We could *really* update the
> resource list - dome companies, dome books, dome websites, dome
> professionals, organizations, bibliography, dome email lists, dome
> shrines (we have the Better Homes and Gardens dome still here in Des
> Moines...), dome "primer", software, etc.
> Then there are materials for panels, struts, roofing, flooring,
> waterproofing, new tools, etc.
> Yes, this would all help, just as Domebooks 1 and 2 did in their day.
> But perhaps we could do more. What could we put in Domebook 3 to help
> people "discover" domes and want to live in them? I know we are back
> to some age old questions there, but perhaps we could accomplish more
> towards putting domes on the map - for housing, for emergency/relief
> use, for sheds and garages, cathedrals and schools, etc.
> Perhaps this is one way we could focus some of the collective energy.
> This might put some umph behind Christine's push to offer something -
> at least we could offer a map - one that helps put domes where they
> belong (announcement of yet another earthquake in Turkey today, and
> people afraid to go back in their houses despite sub freezing temps.)
> Anyone interested? Even you folks that read this list, but aren't
> inclined to write - could you tell us what *you* would like to see in
> Domebook 3? Let's hear your ideas...
> -Dan G.
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